"We get a lot of jobs posted where people stress no agencies - what is it that Sussex media companies don't like about recruiters?"
The responses we got were on the whole less than favourable, so I thought that I would follow this up with a more in-depth look at why this is. The main threads of the responses were: cost, hassle and lack of knowledge, and I will now try and put a case for both sides of the argument for each point.

Cost:
Everyone knows that recruitment agencies charge a percentage of the salary as a fee for using their services, this can range from 12.5% to a whopping 30%, however the normal is usually around the 15-20% mark. So using an agency to find, say, an Account Director at £40,000 per annum will cost you anywhere between £6,000 and £8,000, for sending a few CVs, arranging a few interviews and then chucking you an invoice. How can they charge this exuberant amount for doing, what amounts to, very little other than paper shuffling and email sending?
This is the truth in some cases, however if you use a decent, ethical recruiter you do get your money’s worth. Recruitment is all about relationship building, getting to know your clients business inside and out. Working in partnership with a recruitment consultant will save your company time and money in the long run leaving you to focus on what is most important to your business, your clients. How much is that worth to your business? How much will it cost you as a company if that member of staff is missing from your team for months?
Hassle:
Those endless phone calls from recruitment agencies that flood into your office the moment you post a new vacancy onto the internet, the incessant deluge of “I noticed you just posted X, I have the perfect candidate for you” calls, the unsolicited pitching of candidates to your business that not only are you not currently actually recruiting at that point but the skillset of the candidate has never been a need for your business and if they had taken even a few seconds to look at your website would realise that you wouldn’t ever need. I’m with you on this one, I can’t remember the number of times I have had recruitment consultants call me at Wired Sussex because they have seen a job we have posted, when what they have actually seen is jobs from our jobs board. And the most frustrating thing of all, the final straw that makes me want to scream is the fact that once you are on the recruitment agencies database you then become free game for every consultant in the business to think they can call, email or harass you from now and until eternity.
But hang on a minute, what happens if they do have the perfect candidate for your role? What happens if they have that candidate that may not come onto your radar by your current methods? Are you going to turn down a top candidate just because they come from a recruiter? There are recruitment consultants who are experts in their sector and have a handle of what is actually happening in the industry, and in some cases top candidates will hand over their job search to a recruiter and not apply any other ways.
Lack of Knowledge:
Glorified snap is what they play, they get a job advert, get a CV and match as many keywords as they can, as long as the bulk of them match they think they have the perfect candidate. They think Java is the same as JavaScript, they haven’t thought about whether there is a team fit at all, all they do is just fire you an email with CVs attached, sit back and start working out what to buy with the money they have just made, because basically it’s in the bag.
This is where we come back to the whole relationship/partnership angle. A recruiter that takes time to speak with you, get a feel for what your company ethos is like, really get under the skin of your company, is a niche recruiter that knows the sector inside out will be able to send you CVs or even just one CV that will match what you are looking for exactly.
So where does it leave us?
I think Sussex and the media sector here is a different beast altogether. We are lucky enough to be in a strong position with a sector that is thriving, networking events abound and, if I do say so, a rather cracking industry jobs board. The need to use agencies isn’t as integral to business as it is in say London or elsewhere. I personally think that you can use recruitment agencies to benefit your business, however in a capacity alongside using your own networks and niche jobs boards.
There are a large number of incompetent, unknowledgeable recruiters that are in it for your money and only your money, sharking their way through the sector like Jaws, firing out CVs in a scattergun fashion waiting to see how much sticks, but don’t write them all off. I have worked with and know some great recruiters, there are recruiters out there that are industry experts, that know their sector inside and out and really understand the need for a mutually beneficial business relationship.
Probably now would be a good time to come clean. I am a Recruitment Consultant, I have been one for the past 6 years working within the media sector. I have worked both in a recruitment agency environment as well as internal recruitment for iCrossing and more recently Wired Sussex. I have heard all the venom before and for the bulk of recruitment consultants it is highly justified, and this brush that we are tarred with frustrates me. I am very proud to be a recruitment consultant and pride myself on my sector knowledge and expertise but I am in the minority.
As you were all very vocal on Twitter, you now have more than 140 characters to say you tuppence worth, we'd love to hear your thoughts
Good for you Nick, they're not all bad! I'm glad that you've made a real point here of there being a big difference between professional agencies with industry knowledge and expertise in finding the best staff vs. the cowboys who give everyone else a bad name.
ReplyDeleteOf course, I am also biased being an ex rec con...
A well reasoned argument - however, I think that for every conscientious recruiter there are 10 unscrupulous ones who, at the end of the day, make life harder for everyone involved.
ReplyDeleteMy experience with recruitment agencies is limited, but let me give an example that really drove home the idiocy of the system to me:
Someone I worked alongside recently was hired on a temporary basis via a recruitment agency. It transpired that the company needed to make his position permanent. However, the agency demanded a fee for providing a permanent employee. The company couldn't afford this, and so had to go to the trouble of advertising & interviewing for the position even though they had a perfectly good candidate working for them!
The upshot of the situation was that my friend lost out on a great job, and the company lost out on a great employee.
Faced with that kind of reprehensible behaviour, I can understand why companies are wary of dealing with recruitment agencies.
Further to my feedback @WiredSussex - Having been a recruitee and aswell as looking for developers. I can't sing enough praises for @JamesLafferty - fantastic value for money and a pleasure to work with.
ReplyDeleteI certainly get the impression he's more about building long term relationships and less about making a quick buck.
Good post Nick,
ReplyDeleteRecruitment Consultants are no different to most businesses, Estate Agents, SEOs, Social Media 'gurus', web designers etc. The fact is there are some cowboys out there which give the industry a bad name and generally make people believe that its a waste of money to use an agency. The job I currently have posted on Wired Sussex has had a good level of response and says 'no agencies' (even though one phoned me yesterday!!). This role is a junior role so I don't feel an agency is justified but if I'm looking for a senior person with X amount of experience then I think a specialist agency would be justified in their fees.
Like anything it depends what you expect to get out of it and how much you want to pay!
I would say that many businesses do use recruitment agencies, but have preferred suppliers of agencies with whom they have been working with for years and have built up that special relationship with.
ReplyDeletePlacing No Agencies on the job add just discourages the hawkers and hacks from endlessly knocking on your door with useless candidates. Sadly it doesn't prevent it as most agencies seem to ignore the No Agencies notice. They normally leave you alone once you say that you only recruit from agencies on your preferred supplier list though, so even if you don't it's a pretty good line.
Emily makes a good point. If you are going to use agencies then take time to find ones that sit well with you, that are ethical, knowledgeable and then set up a Preferred Supplier List (PSL), and stick to it.
ReplyDeleteIt is a great way to use agencies effectively for your business and allow you to build that partnership/relationship that is mutually beneficial
'decent, ethical recruiter' Yeah...good luck finding one of those.
ReplyDeleteSorry, but from both sides (employer and recruit) I have found recruitment consultants often worse than useless: from piles of crappy CVs that bear no relation to the role on offer, which I then had to plough through, wasting my time (just the thing the recruiter had promised to save) to the job spec from the world's largest digital marketing agency...sent to me when I'd said I was looking for a role in a boutique design and build agency (clearly stating that my digital marketing experience was minimal).
My friends and I have a good riddle: which is worse...recruitment consultants or letting agents? It's a bit Alien vs Predator...
I got my current job by sending my CV cold to a number of Brighton agencies. I sent 7 emails, got 2 interviews and 1 (fabulous) job. Be your own recruitment consultant and make everyone, both you and your new employer, happy.
Rachel, that is the problem, the bulk of recruitment consultants are like that. As I said in my post there are good ones out there (I count myself as one) that take the time to do what most recruiters fail to do and that is listen
ReplyDeleteListen to what the company wants or what the candidate is looking for. Again it comes down to the whole relationship/partnership thing, a good recruiter could take you job spec and send you 1, 2 or 3 CVs that would hit the mark exactly
We're not all bad :-)
Brighton and the South East being as it is, I've never had an issue finding people for roles - to the extent I've probably not even needed to spend even as much as £500 on advertising - and that includes some quite niche roles, like my recent London based Irish Content Manager. I'd only ever go to a recruitment consultant or agency if I found myself struggling to fill a role - and then I'd only expect to get candidates back that matched the effort I'd put into describing my requirements.
ReplyDeleteWhich is why I always put 'No agencies please' - if I want one, I reckon I could a) find one or b) get a decent recommendation on one from a colleague. I appreciate agencies have got to market themselves, but unless they get really lucky, they'll never get the answer they're looking for off the back of an email or a call - in the same way I don't expect to get business from anyone randomly using the same methods.
I gave the reasons above in response to the tweet, but to be fair the sole agency I now use came about from a cold call. The difference was that they weren't pushy and offered to come in and meet whether we decided to go ahead with them or not. They are also a local Sussex based agency which I prefer.
ReplyDeleteMy biggest annoyance is probably this... if I say I will call you back when I have a vacancy I wish you to find candidates for, I will. That is not an invitation to keep phoning me!
Hi Nick,
ReplyDeleteGreat Blog and you have my utmost sympathy - I spent 20 years in the IT recruitment industry and it's a tought job by any standard.
You probably don't want to hear this, but my latter years in recruitment made me realise that the industry is definately changing.
Employers spend a staggering £3.5 billion on recruitment every year - mostly paid to agencies. And...70% of companies using agencies are dissatisfied with the service. Let's be honest, charging 15-20% for placing your customer's advert on a job board, then filtering the jobseeker response, is hardly value for money from the customer's perspective.
That's what gave us the idea to launch www.SugarJobs.co.uk
We are helping customers to recruit directly by advertising their jobs themselves and run CV searches at a fraction of the cost they would pay to a recruitment agencies.
Believe it or not, the beauty of the service is that jobseekers tend to be more careful in submitting applications directly to employers (when they know their CV is not just going to end up on an agency database) so the hiring managers also tend to receive more relevant responses.
We welcome all "no agency" advertisers, so if we can be of assistance, please take advantage of a free trial of our services!
Best wishes
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www.SugarJobs.co.uk
Here's my experience of recruitment agencies...
ReplyDeleteOne placed me on an alleged temp-to-perm.
They charged me out at £200 a day and paid me £100
The client liked me and wanted to keep me, but the agent still wanted 20% - too much for the client
In short, the agent screwed me over once for cash, then again for my career.
Currently unemployed and fuming
Before looking for a recruitment agency, try to look first at their permit,credentials and be investigative. Some are after your money but mostly are legal. Doubt on them if they asking for a fee before hiring you.
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Nice post. Got to bookmark it. I will start searching now.
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